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A little update on Funimation, Geneon, and ADV

I apologize to gia, but I think it will just be easier to quote from her post:

Fukunaga is now talking about FUNi’s major coup d’etats: the 10+ Geneon titles and the 32 ADV titles (Gen says 34– are there more to hear about? Hm).

Moving into questions…Will you go with box sets for the new titles? Yes if they can, but with Geneon most of the titles are part-in, so they want to start releasing the rest of the series. Also with Geneon, that’s a partnership and Geneon is continuing to dub and will finish all of their shows– it’s their productions still. So no dub changes! With ADV, they’re in talks to have ADV finish up the series, again to avoid dub disruption, but nothing’s set in stone yet.

First thought: The 34 could have been a misspeak, or it could mean they’re also grabbing 2 out of 5 of Best Student Council, Ghost Train, Innocent Venus, Kurau: Phantom Memory, and Synethesia and just haven’t announced it yet (I would have to imagine that ADV would fight to the death to keep 5 Centimeters Per Second).

Second, at least ADV may be able to make a little money to still being in charge of production of the series that were taken from them (Shattered Angels, NHK, Kanon, Tokyo Majin, and possibly Murder Princess, if any dubbing has taken place on it.  I’m not sure what else is still outstanding).  Same thing for Geneon, though Geneon has completed the dubs on a good portion of their shows anyway, so I’m not sure how much there is left to do.

Part of it, of course, could also be due to the fact that I’m sure Funimation may not want to see ADV go away, even though they are competitors.  Right now, Funimation is the undisputed King of anime, but it’s rarely good for an industry to have only one major player in the market (Yeah, I know Bandai Entertainment is still out there, but can anyone argue that they’re as big as Funi is now?).

Funimation takes over anime, aquires THIRTY ADV Titles

I’m guessing this is all part of the fallout between ADV and their licensing partner Sojitz as many of the titles on this list were on the list of suspended shows in February:

  • 009-1
  • Ah! My Goddess: Flights of Fancy
  • Air Gear
  • Air: The Movie
  • Air TV
  • Blade of the Phantom Master
  • Comic Party: Revolution
  • Coyote Ragtime Show
  • Devil May Cry
  • Guyver: The Bioboosted Armor TV
  • Jing, King of Bandits: Seventh Heaven
  • Jinki:Extend
  • Kanon
  • Kyoshiro to Towa no Sora (once titled as Shattered Angels by ADV Films)
  • Le Chevalier D’Eon
  • Magikano
  • Moeyo Ken TV
  • Moonlight Mile
  • Murder Princess
  • Nerima Daikon Brothers
  • Pani Poni Dash!
  • Project Blue Earth SOS
  • Pumpkin Scissors
  • Red Garden
  • Sgt. Keroro 1st & 2nd
  • Tokyo Majin
  • UFO Princess Valkyrie
  • Utawarerumono
  • Venus Versus Virus
  • The Wallflower
  • Welcome to the NHK
  • Xenosaga

All titles were on the list in February except for Shattered Angels, which was licensed after the snafu, Murder Princess, who previously hadn’t had a licensed announced for it, and Sgt. Keroro, possibly because it had no scheduled releases yet.

Shows on the list in February which are not on the list above include 5 Centimeters Per Second, Best Student Council, Ghost Train, Innocent Venus, Kurau: Phantom Memory, and Synethesia, so they are reportedly staying with ADV Films.

The bad thing for ADV in this deal is that it is quite possible that ADV didn’t get a penny from the transfer since the Japanese company they were partnering with held the actual licenses.  This could also be why ADV is in a hurry to license so many new shows, so they have a stream of income to replace these shows, since these constitute the bulk of all the shows that ADV has released over the past couple of years.

ADV Update: It ain’t lookin good for Kanon, NHK, et. al.

It’s hard to tell how much trouble ADV is in, but apparently ADV has had a falling out with their licensing parter Sojitz which, from the sound of it, effectively makes the four titles announced yesterday technically unlicensed for the time being.

The fact that the ADV rep at their Sneak Peak panel talked about how he hoped whomever ended up distributing those titles used the same voice cast was especially foreboding, since it seemed clear that the “whomever” may or may not be ADV Films.

They said they were still working on 23 different licenses, so it doesn’t sound like the company is necessarily in as dire straights as some people have feared, but as I said earlier, this definitely can’t help them.

Now for the bad news: ADV releases ‘Suspended Indefinitely’ …again

I hope this thing doesn’t go on 4 or 5 month cycles or whatever. From Robert’s Anime Corner blog:

I just got the word this morning from ADV that the following new releases have been ’suspended indefinitely’:

Shattered Angels , Vol #2 DVD
Shattered Angels , Vol #2 DVD w Art Box
Kanon, Vol #6 DVD
Tokyo Majin, Vol #4 DVD
Welcome to NHK, Vol #5, 5th Conspiracy DVD

I did not inquire about releases out past 7/8. This is just a quick post, and I’m currently working to get some clarification on what’s going on.

Oh, damn it to hell that Kanon 6 is on the list. And I would agree with Robert on this point:

The ‘deer in the headlights’ deal we went through back in February isn’t going to cut it this time.

Especially since it appears to be yet another licensing problem. Apparently this only applies to new releases (Robert says they’re still getting shipments of the new box set releases, for example), but that is obviously still not good for ADV.

PiQ Crashes and Burns. Is ADV Next? [Updated x2]

Apparently trying to diversify from NewType USA was a mistake. Unofficial reports say that the current issue of PiQ is it’s last. So will those of us who still have an outstanding subscription get our money back, or are they going to herd us over to yet another publication.

PiQ had hoped to expand NewType’s subscription base by 10 times by diversifying it’s content.

My guess is that people who would by magazines like that had no incentive to buy PiQ over magazines that already existed that covered the same content, while PiQ’s already existing subscribers who were used to NewType ditched the magazine in droves. I had basically already decided to not renew my subscription when it was up myself, though I wasn’t going to go so far as canceling the subscription I already had.

Perhaps the more alarming news is that the person who made this public also notes that “apparently the parent company is going out of business.”

Now, last time I knew, ADV was PiQ’s parent company, unless there is a corporate layer between ADV and PiQ and that extra layer is what is being folded (assuming that part of the report is correct). ADV has been hurting for a while, and I noticed that my copy of Kanon 5 is already on backorder from RightStuf even though it was just released (though Amazon apparently has it in stock).

I really hope this doesn’t mean that ADV is going down as well. If so, that would mean we would effectively have only 3 major anime distributors left: Funimation, Bandai Entertainment, and Viz.

Update:

Apparently a PiQ LLC exists, with offices at the same address as and is itself owned by ADV. Whether the reference to “parent company” just meant PiQ LLC or meant to include ADV, I don’t know, and from the sounds of it, the author of the post doesn’t necessarily know for sure either.

Update II:

The PiQ webpage makes it official:

It’s unfortunate that we’ll never get a chance to see how successful PiQ could have been, but a combination of low advertising revenue, poor business management and a lack of proper marketing and promotion all hamstrung the magazine from the start. We, the editorial/creative/production staff, did the best we could to put together a quality publication, but as we’ve discovered, without a good financial backing, it’s all an exercise in futility.

So basically the reasons for this were:

  1. We tried to re-launch a formerly anime and manga based magazine into an already saturated market, and for some reason no one wanted to buy ads in it
  2. We wasted money
  3. We didn’t advertise ourselves, and
  4. ADV screwed us over

As nckl notes in the comments, I’m not sure I would advertise that you basically drove your magazine into the ground via “poor business management” but oh well. Actually, it kind of sounds like some guy who decided to give ADV the middle finger just as he’s walking out the door to me. The “exercise in futility” especially seems to make it read like that. It’s not just a “we’re going bye-bye” announcement, it’s a “we’re going bye-bye, and these are the reasons why we are but didn’t have to if the people above me weren’t morons.”

Look at it: complaining about poor business management and bad financial backing…those would seem to be targeted at either the people put in charge of PiQ LLC or towards ADV itself – especially the part about financial backing.

As for those of us with subscriptions, they say they will have “more details later.” If they’re just going to refund money, I don’t know why they wouldn’t just say so, which means that we’ll probably eventually get our money back in some sort of round-about way.

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