Comments on: CLANNAD: After Story – Episode 22 [END] http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/2009/03/15/clannad-after-story-episode-22-end/ CLAMP for Congress Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:51:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: TheOtaku http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/2009/03/15/clannad-after-story-episode-22-end/comment-page-1/#comment-103323 TheOtaku Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:18:15 +0000 http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/?p=5512#comment-103323 I agree that it was kind of a emotion kill when after all those hardships Nagisa and Ushio just somehow come back to life. However, Clannad was originally a visual novel and this kind of ending was possible by collecting light orbs throughout the game. It is mentioned in the anime about the folk tale that the light orbs could grant wishes. When Tomoya finally came to terms with his father he was able to receive a light orb. I got really emotional of course with the episode of Nagisa's death and the bonding Tomoya and his daughter had. In fact, I remember in episode 18 of AF that I teared up a lot when Ushio was like, "The only places where you can cry is in the bathroom and in your father's arms." Anyways, happy times come, and then Ushio suddenly becomes sick just like Nagisa. She eventually dies. Such a sad thing is better than the happy ending? Can you sleep any better thinking, "Oh great! The love of Tomoya's life died! And after giving up everything to give birth to Ushio she dies anyways!" rather than "Oh, well the ending was a bit too fictional." If the ending is badly explained, play the visual novel, or even just look into it on the wiki. Clannad is tagged under Fantasy too anyways. It's true that it was a lot less realistic, but that's the story, that's what the other world with the girl was there for. So what if it's a little less realistic? It ends with Tomoya finally recovering and then he lives just to see his daughter die in his arms? Life sucks so don't find love or else this will happen? I don't think that was their intentional moral. In fact, it was probably the exact opposite. On the last episode, before everything changed, Tomoya was thinking just that; If only I hadn't fallen in love with her. Tomoya finally called out to Nagisa and learned that he didn't regret anything. Okay, he doesn't regret anything, but everyone still dies, the end. No, I wouldn't want that. A miracle happens, that whole point of the light orbs happens. Tomoya did not forget that Nagisa had died before, but I'm sure he'd rather have the altered future anyways. Just personally, but I'd rather see this: http://kojioe.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/family.jpg?w=450&h=600 Than Tomoya all alone in the end with nothing. Also, you must have super human powers to have been able to read through all of this. I agree that it was kind of a emotion kill when after all those hardships Nagisa and Ushio just somehow come back to life. However, Clannad was originally a visual novel and this kind of ending was possible by collecting light orbs throughout the game. It is mentioned in the anime about the folk tale that the light orbs could grant wishes. When Tomoya finally came to terms with his father he was able to receive a light orb. I got really emotional of course with the episode of Nagisa’s death and the bonding Tomoya and his daughter had. In fact, I remember in episode 18 of AF that I teared up a lot when Ushio was like, “The only places where you can cry is in the bathroom and in your father’s arms.” Anyways, happy times come, and then Ushio suddenly becomes sick just like Nagisa. She eventually dies. Such a sad thing is better than the happy ending? Can you sleep any better thinking, “Oh great! The love of Tomoya’s life died! And after giving up everything to give birth to Ushio she dies anyways!” rather than “Oh, well the ending was a bit too fictional.” If the ending is badly explained, play the visual novel, or even just look into it on the wiki. Clannad is tagged under Fantasy too anyways.

It’s true that it was a lot less realistic, but that’s the story, that’s what the other world with the girl was there for. So what if it’s a little less realistic? It ends with Tomoya finally recovering and then he lives just to see his daughter die in his arms? Life sucks so don’t find love or else this will happen? I don’t think that was their intentional moral. In fact, it was probably the exact opposite. On the last episode, before everything changed, Tomoya was thinking just that; If only I hadn’t fallen in love with her. Tomoya finally called out to Nagisa and learned that he didn’t regret anything. Okay, he doesn’t regret anything, but everyone still dies, the end. No, I wouldn’t want that. A miracle happens, that whole point of the light orbs happens. Tomoya did not forget that Nagisa had died before, but I’m sure he’d rather have the altered future anyways.

Just personally, but I’d rather see this:
http://kojioe.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/family.jpg?w=450&h=600

Than Tomoya all alone in the end with nothing. Also, you must have super human powers to have been able to read through all of this.

]]> By: Kurohara http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/2009/03/15/clannad-after-story-episode-22-end/comment-page-1/#comment-99034 Kurohara Sat, 09 Jul 2011 23:11:35 +0000 http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/?p=5512#comment-99034 In the game you have to to go through Nagisa's death and the subsequent events before you can get to this ending. I do however understand that some people may have difficulties understanding the lights as they aren't blatantly explained, same goes for the alternate world. However for me I feel that all the little bits of information about both of these topics over the series either direnctly, (Yukine's telling of the folktale that regards the lights) or indirectly, (Nagisa's line of "would you like me to take you to the place in town where wishes come true") when collected together explain both topics rather well. In the game you have to to go through Nagisa’s death and the subsequent events before you can get to this ending. I do however understand that some people may have difficulties understanding the lights as they aren’t blatantly explained, same goes for the alternate world. However for me I feel that all the little bits of information about both of these topics over the series either direnctly, (Yukine’s telling of the folktale that regards the lights) or indirectly, (Nagisa’s line of “would you like me to take you to the place in town where wishes come true”) when collected together explain both topics rather well.

]]> By: Kurohara http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/2009/03/15/clannad-after-story-episode-22-end/comment-page-1/#comment-99032 Kurohara Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:45:27 +0000 http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/?p=5512#comment-99032 You have to remember that Clannad was originally a Visual Novel for which the anime holds relatively true to. The ending of the anime is the True Ending of the VN. The other world is very much part of the original story and it actually the movie that was 'twirked around' rather than the Anime. That is something that needs to be remembered when commenting on this topic. The director did not mess up with this ending but rather stayed true to Key's original Story You have to remember that Clannad was originally a Visual Novel for which the anime holds relatively true to. The ending of the anime is the True Ending of the VN. The other world is very much part of the original story and it actually the movie that was ‘twirked around’ rather than the Anime. That is something that needs to be remembered when commenting on this topic. The director did not mess up with this ending but rather stayed true to Key’s original Story

]]> By: Kurohara http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/2009/03/15/clannad-after-story-episode-22-end/comment-page-1/#comment-99030 Kurohara Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:35:17 +0000 http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/?p=5512#comment-99030 After just recently finishing Clannad AS, I must say that I wasn't confused. I understand how peole may end up confused, but for me I understood the orbs early on in the anime. This could be because of my understanding from what I know of the VN however. This is proberly why for me it also doesn't throw the episodes out of the window as in the VN those were events were necessary for gathering the rest of the orbs needed for the true ending in which both Nagisa and Ushio survive. As for the how paradox situation, that world for me appears to be outside time. Especially considering the in which the robat describes his memories of a world that he lived in potentially in the past or the future. After just recently finishing Clannad AS, I must say that I wasn’t confused. I understand how peole may end up confused, but for me I understood the orbs early on in the anime. This could be because of my understanding from what I know of the VN however. This is proberly why for me it also doesn’t throw the episodes out of the window as in the VN those were events were necessary for gathering the rest of the orbs needed for the true ending in which both Nagisa and Ushio survive. As for the how paradox situation, that world for me appears to be outside time. Especially considering the in which the robat describes his memories of a world that he lived in potentially in the past or the future.

]]> By: Derpgot http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/2009/03/15/clannad-after-story-episode-22-end/comment-page-1/#comment-99015 Derpgot Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:30:32 +0000 http://www.joshsanimeblog.com/?p=5512#comment-99015 I think you're wrong Hatebreed I mean think about it when Nagisa and Ushio is dead then the world has ended for Tomoya and there is nothing after that because it has ended just as we see with much older Ushio and robot, there is nothing at all. I think you’re wrong Hatebreed I mean think about it when Nagisa and Ushio is dead then the world has ended for Tomoya and there is nothing after that because it has ended just as we see with much older Ushio and robot, there is nothing at all.

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